Today on the podcast:

Gabby Bernstein the #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Universe Has Your Back and has written six additional bestsellers. 

She was featured on Oprah’s SuperSoul Sunday as a “next-generation thought leader,” and The Oprah Winfrey Network chose Gabby to be part of the “SuperSoul 100,” a dynamic group of 100 trailblazers whose vision and life’s work are bringing a higher level of consciousness to the world.

The New York Times identified her as “a new role model.” 

YouTube named Gabby one of 16 YouTube Next Video Bloggers, she was named one of Mashable’s 11 Must-Follow Twitter Accounts for Inspiration, and she’s featured on the Forbes List of 20 Best-Branded Women. 

She appears regularly as an expert on The Dr. Oz Show and co-hosted the Guinness World Record largest guided meditation with Deepak Chopra. 

Gabby just released her seventh -book, Super Attractor which I highly recommend checking out. 

As someone who’s been following Gabby’s work for a long time, this episode was a particular pleasure for me personally. I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed recording it. 

The questions from today’s podcast:

  1.   I’ve just slightly touched on some of your accolades and your incredible books, but Gabby, tell us a little bit about your backstory and what led you on your current path? 05:29
  2.   I know your mission is to help people crack open to a spiritual relationship so that they can live in alignment with their true purpose. Talk to me a little about your mission? 07:34:
  3.   In your new book Super Attractor, your call to action is asking people if they are ready to take their spiritual practice to the next level and manifest love and joy like they’ve never experienced before? Talk about how people can make a shift from occasional practising to living a spiritual life every day. 13:57
  4. One of the sections of the book that I connected with most was on how to release the past and live without fear of the future, can you talk about how people can adopt this in their own lives? 30:16
  5.   I loved your recent blog post on  How vulnerability gives you power, can you talk about vulnerability and peoples relationship to it?  27:35
  6.   You had a great post on Instagram about  How to make spirituality a habit and just to recap, it was based in five steps.  35:50
  7. What are you most excited about right now? 40:06


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Brian: 01:24 Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the podcast. I’m your host Brian Keane here with another expert guest talking all things mindset. Today’s episode is a particular pleasure for me because this person I’ve been following for a very long time, and she is somebody that serves me and has served me in a multitude of ways, either through books or online content. And when I think of the terms, the Internet is a better place because of her message, I think of this person. Today’s guest is Gabby Bernstein. She’s a number one time New York Times best selling author of “The Universe Has Your Back” and has written six additional bestsellers in today’s episode. We jump through everything that have to do with Mindset Surrender, bringing subconscious thoughts to the conscious so that you can deal with them, not letting your past project into your present or into your future. And we go deep when it comes to becoming a super attractor. So how to manifest the things you want into your world. And as somebody that has been a long time subscriber to the belief that’s what was meant for you won’t pass you. Hopefully, today’s episode will give you some tangible things that you can take out, that you can apply in your own life when it comes to either manifesting the life that you want, whatever that is, whether that’s your body, whether that’s your finances, whether that’s your relationships. So I’m not going to spend too much time on this introduction because a lot of you will be familiar with Gabbi from either her Instagram or her online platforms or from her books that have sold countless copies. And as somebody that has been endorsed by Oprah, as I talk about in the description, as we talk about a little bit in today’s episode, she is serving the world in an incredible way. And to be able to interview her on the podcast today has been one of the greatest pleasures that I’ve had to do or had to do that I get to do. And I hope you all get as much benefit from today’s episode as I did, because I will be going back with this one with a notepad and pen just to reflect on some things we talked about. So without further ado, here is Gabby Bernstein on why the universe has your back and becoming a super attractor.

Brian: 03:48 Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of the podcast, I’m delighted to be joined today with my guest, Gabby Bernstein. Gabby is the number one New York Times best-selling author of The Universe Has Your Back and has written six additional bestsellers. She was featured on Oprah’s SuperSoul Sunday as a next-generation thought leader. And The Oprah Winfrey Network chose Gabby to be part of the SuperSoul 100 with a dynamic group of 100 trailblazers whose vision and life’s work are bringing a higher level of consciousness to the world. The New York Times identified her as a new role model. YouTube named Gabby, one of 16 YouTube next video bloggers. She was named one of matchable 11. Most followed Twitter accounts for inspiration, and she’s featured on the Forbes list of 20 best-branded women. She appears regularly as an expert on the Doctora show and cohosted of the Guinness World Record largest guided meditation with Deepak Chopra. Gabby just released her seventh book, what’s been a release now for the last couple of months? Because it’s an absolutely brilliant one. We’re going to deep dive into today Super Tractor, which I highly recommend checking out at the end of today’s show. I’m really looking forward to diving into the book. Mindset all things spirituality and manifestation in today’s episode. Gabby, welcome to the podcast.

Gabby: 05:03 Thank you. I’m so happy to be with you. Thanks for having me.

Brian: 05:06 My pleasure. I’ve been really looking forward to chatting and I’ve been following your Instagram page for ages. And when I think of your page, one of the things that comes to mind is the Internet is a more positive place for the message you put out there. So I just want to thank you personally as somebody that sees your post on a daily basis, and it just is one of those positive influences in my life. So before we go into all things with your books, I touch slightly on some of your accolades and your incredible books. You know, all seven I recommend people check out if you’re looking to do a deep dive into spirituality, into spirituality, manifestation, etc.. But, Gabby, tell us a little bit about your back story and what kind of led you on your current path?

Gabby: 05:44 Totally. It’s been a it’s been a nice journey. I’ve been on this path as a spiritual teacher for 15 years now, and I began my journey as a person and the personal growth space in a spiritual leader and as a motivational speaker and author through my own personal experience of hitting a bottom. When I was 25 years old, I was suffering from drug addiction and alcoholism and a lot of unconscious wounds that I had not been aware of. Thankfully, I got myself sober at twenty-five. So it’s been 15 years now, which is unbelievable. In that time of really building upon my recovery, in my sober recovery, I started to really gain the spiritual foundation that I needed to step into the woman that I am today. So for the past 15 years, while I’ve been a teacher, while I’ve been writing books, the biggest accomplishment of my life is my bravery and willingness to go to the places that scared me and come out the other side. So I do believe that that the greatest teachers are the ones that have the willingness to teach themselves first. So that has been my path of just really unlearning all the stories from my past so that I can really reclaim a new way of being in the present.

Brian: 07:03 Love that. And you know that those unconscious wounds and the unlearning of things, I think that your vulnerability in the way you put that across in your books, on your platforms, I think that connects so much of people because you’re literally living example that you can come out the other side and that these setbacks can potentially, you know, help you serve the world and serve the universe in a better way. I know your personal mission is to help people kind of crack open their spiritual relationships, that they can live in alignment with their true purpose. That’s something you talk about a lot. Can you talk to me a little bit about your mission? And I use you as an example for the Internet, as a more positive place because of what you put out there. But what does your mission mean to you and what do you kind of out there promoting in terms of getting people to take that inward reflection on themselves or have that self-awareness? What’s your kind of thought process when it comes to promoting your message and how you’re going about doing it? Just to give people a bit of context on the way you serve people currently.

Gabby: 08:00 I’ve been fulfilling the same mission for the past 15 years, but it’s only gotten more important, I believe, more timely and necessary than ever before, and I think a little bit more of a sense of urgency within me to really fulfil the function that I’m here to bring forth, which is to help people, as you said, help people wake up to a spiritual connection of their own understanding in the pursuit of creating and establishing ways to self regulate, self soothe, to have a sense of inner stability so that you can survive and not only survive, but thrive in uncertain, difficult times. Life has always been difficult. There’s always obstacles. But we’ve never experienced this. That’s why I really believe the mission that I’ve been living is never been more important than it is today. And my biggest mission is to support many, many, many more people in their own personal growth journey and developing what that means to them.

Brian: 09:02 Gabby, you mentioned unlearning there. And I have to ask this question because it’s something that I was going to come back to later on. But I think you kind of gave me a nice little segue to it now. And I know there’s been countless things that you’ve unlearned and adjusted your mindset over the last 15 years. But what are the kind of top one or two things that you have learned that when you share it across in books or shared across the platforms, it resonates and connects the most with? Does anything jump to mind when I say that?

Gabby: 09:31 I believe that what I have unlearned most is the belief system that I am unlovable and inadequate. We all in our own ways, establish limiting beliefs from our childhood, even if we perceived our childhood to be great. The belief systems of I’m not good enough, I’m unlovable, I’m inadequate. The dismantling of those belief systems requires a lot of bravery. So I’m proud that this journey I’ve been on has been a journey of spiritually and therapeutically and practically dismantling that belief system so that I can really enjoy my life and enjoy who I am and feel good, have fun, do good work, be of service.

Brian: 10:19 I love that. Like the limiting beliefs I think is and it’s funny that they’re the two that you mentioned, unlovable and inadequate because they’re two that come in quite a lot through people that listen to this podcast. So just for those people who are in that place now, either at the start of that journey where they feel unloved or they feel inadequate for whatever reason. What advice would you offer those people to go from zero to one or just how to get started?

Gabby: 10:44 I think the first step is to just acknowledge yourself for your willingness to change, because I don’t think anyone would be listening to your podcast right now if they didn’t have a desire to feel better, to do to be better, to adjust their consciousness. So that first step is to be proud of yourself for the desire to change.

Gabby: 11:03 The next step was to just become very willing to see things differently when we become willing to grow, to change you to become new. That’s when our unconscious wakes up to the support systems that are available to us. That’s when you might listen to a podcast like this and maybe find a book like mine or someone else’s, or listen to someone like you and find guidance directly. But we can’t find that guidance or receive that good, orderly direction if we are shut down and unwilling to change. So the daily willingness is really a surrender to seeing things differently and then be open and, and receptive to the guidance that is very available to you once you open up to it.

Brian: 11:47 That’s such great advice. I’m very curious because the way you write your books, Gabbay, and obviously the way you put the content online because there’s a big connection with your message, you obviously listen a lot to either your audience or people that you interact with daily through, you know, one to one or in the just the virtual worlds to a degree, because of covid and the way the world has been the last few months. But is there any trend or what’s the biggest misbelief that you see most common that’s amongst people, not necessarily yourself, but when it comes to the people who obviously find you and are willing to surrender to the message of everything that you promote in your child and across your books, is there a common trend or common misbelief that you regularly see when it comes to people? And it may not be to do with, you know, self-love or inadequacy or anything along those lines. It may be something completely different, but is there anything that comes to mind when I say that?

Gabby: 12:43 There’s quite a few trends and commonalities between people’s disturbances and and problems, let’s just say? And really underneath all of it is the root cause condition of not feeling good enough like we had mentioned. But behind that but that that feeling manifests in many different ways. Currently, I’m seeing a trend of that feeling, manifesting for many people, feeling as though they’re lost, they’re stuck, they no longer know how to identify with themselves if their career has changed or if they feel like they’re not going to be able to go back to life as they knew it or whatever the obstacles that we’ve all been experiencing. But in that stuck place, I often will guide people to recognize that there’s two choices we can make.

Gabby: 13:29 The first choices we can stay stuck and numb out, drink and eat, and just really abuse ourselves through this period. Or we can wake up, wake up to the potential for fulfilling our highest purpose, use this time wisely, strengthen our spiritual condition, our personal growth foundation, and come out different, come out new. So there’s a lot of folks that are really feeling stuck right now. And I want to really reframe that obstacle as an opportunity.

Brian: 13:58 That gives me a perfect segue, because, in your latest book, “Super Attractor”, the call to action in that book is asking people if they’re ready to take their spiritual practice to the next level and manifest love and joy like they’ve never experienced before, which I think is the evolution of working through feeling inadequate or feeling that you’re not worthy of something. Can you talk to people about one of the things that I connected with and really enjoy from the book was that you talk about making that shift from occasional practice of just normal everyday living to having, living, putting or bringing spirituality into your life every day. How would you recommend or what you recommend to people when it comes to either flipping their mindset or flipping the way they’re thinking about spirituality in general? And I know your book goes through this in a guide to guide and a very step by step fashion, hence why I recommend it to people, let’s check it out. Book can you give the everyone that’s listening to the podcast, little bit of a brief introduction to what you recommend when it comes to people adopting a and bringing spirituality into their life as a whole.

Gabby: 15:02 So I think that the word spirituality can be loaded for people, but it’s also more prominent than it’s ever been. And it’s being spiritual is far more trendy than it was 15 years ago when I first started out. So that’s a great thing. That’s helpful. When you open a book like Super Attractor, there’s a desire within you to see things differently, to manifest a life that you genuinely want and believe that you deserve, and to release the blocks to that presence of, of that disserving nature. So the book is really, well while the subtitle is Methods for Manifesting a Life Beyond Your Wildest Dreams, it’s actually a book on how to feel good, because the key to manifesting is to feel good. And that doesn’t mean we feel great all the time, but it means that we’re committed to leaning towards joy. When we lean towards joy, we we are led, we are guided, we are shown where to go and what to do. So this entire book, every method in this book is designed to help the reader release the blocks to the presence of the feeling of being good, feeling good, receiving goodness. When we when we really commit to that, that’s when we start to see our life flow differently.

Brian: 16:22 Why do you think we struggle to release blocks? I know that’s another probably a bit of a loaded question because it’s so individual.

Gabby: 16:28 But no, it’s actually pretty universal for everybody. I think that that we establish blocks from our childhood in the formative years, from age zero to six zero to six, seven. When our brain is developing, we are the blocks that we establish are based on whether or not we’ve had a proper attachment to a parent or a caregiver. Any breach of that attachment can can disrupt the development of a child’s brain. If you know anything from trauma with a small T or trauma with a big T to a small T, it could be, you know, you were told you were stupid on the playground and a big T could be abuse. Right. But those moments of moments or perpetual experiences of of discomfort and and and and and like I said, disturbances dismantle the parts of our ability to allow them to allow the brain to develop the way it’s naturally meant to. So the brain gets out of whack. Right. We don’t know, we don’t learn the proper ways of of really managing our emotions and problem-solving. And then we live in a way where the patterns of those triggers, the things that may activate the part of us that wants to go into fight or flight to protect ourselves. We live in a way of of just living from trigger to trigger. And the blocks that we have come from, the wounded places within us, the triggers, the experiences, the belief systems, and frankly, the way that our brain works. Now, we know there’s something called neuroplasticity, we can readjust the pathways of our brain. We can change our brain. And meditation is a way of changing the brain. Mindfulness is a way of changing the brain. Beautiful therapeutic processes like MDR, neurofeedback, somatic experiencing. There’s so many things we can do to re reclaim a new structural pathway within our brain, but also their spiritual things that we can do. And spiritually, we can really become willing to heal and respect and honor the parts of ourselves that were not cared for. When we begin to honour the parts of ourselves that we’re not cared for, we start to heal the patterns and the blocks that hold us back from being what I refer to as a super attractor. So the really long winded answer, reading a book about trauma right now, so I’m really in it. But that’s what the blocks come from. The blocks come from our past. They come from our belief systems. They come from the the energetic disturbances that occur in our life.

Brian: 19:12 Though I look forward to reading that next book when it’s out as well.

Gabby: 19:15 That book is going to knock your socks off, baby. Oh, my goodness.

Brian: 19:19 Oh, I look forward to that. You mentioned triggers there, Gabby. And this is something that even from a personal standpoint, because I’ve heard you mentioned it before in books, online and Instagram, etc., how do you recommend people identify their triggers?

Gabby: 19:35 Well, you know, it’s pretty tough for people to recognize their triggers if they don’t want to. There’s a part of ourselves that that in the there’s a therapeutic process called IFS Internal Family Systems. And that part of us is the referred to as the protector part, and that protector part of us wants to justify our reaction to the triggers. So if we’re in a place of justification, it’s hard to even identify that that we’re being triggered at all because we just think we’re the victim of the world that we see. Right. But once we start to do some some deeper dive into what’s going on in our own subconscious, we can recognize that the reactivity that we have in our moment to moment experiences isn’t just who we are. It’s a part of who we are. It’s a it’s a child part. It’s a abused part. It’s a part that was told they weren’t good enough. It’s a part that felt unsafe. And so when we begin to acknowledge these different parts, that’s when we can see that, oh, that’s not I’m not wrong for having that trigger. That’s just a part of me that’s being activated right now. So it’s really about noticing the moments when you’re activated. Right. So for me, it would be like when I used to be. It’s not anymore, I’m really proud to say. But when things would get out of control, like if I was leading a webinar for thousands of people and the Internet went down, you know, or that my or my site crashed, I would literally have a tantrum. And that part of me with my 10 year old self that felt out of control. It wasn’t Gabby in her adult resource self. It was my 10 year old. Right. You know, one day my therapist said to me, maybe your 10 year old shouldn’t be running your business. So it’s like the more we become conscious and aware of those parts and if someone’s listening and they’re like, well, that sounds intriguing. Check out IFS therapy started by a man called Richard Schwartz. It’s something that can be really life changing for people to start to develop a greater awareness and understanding of those parts so that they don’t live from trigger to trigger.

Brian: 21:40 Outside of the IFS do you have any other favorite practice or way to kind of bring some of those subconscious thoughts into the consciousness?

Gabby: 21:48 I have a lot, yes. So I’ve been practising hypnosis, which has been very helpful for me. I’ve been practising a therapeutic technique called emotional freedom technique, EFT, which is tapping, otherwise known as tapping, where you tap on different energy meridians while you talk about the energetic disturbance. And the concept is that you can heal that disturbance and it does actually affect the brain and has a great effect on your nervous system and regulating your nervous system. Another method is called EMDR Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing, which is similar to EFT In that it’s stimulating bilateral brain functioning. And when you do that through holding different buzzer’s in either hand or having someone move their hand across so your eyes move back and forth when you practice EMDR, what’s happening is, is it’s because of the bilateral brain functioning, and while you’re talking about a disturbance from your past, it it opens up your tolerance, your window of tolerance, so that you can really process past traumas and experiences in a healthy, safe way without even having to revisit them. So there’s that there’s somatic experiencing, which is all about the body. And how trauma is stored in the body and discomfort is stored in the body. And I could go on and on and on, there’s a lot of methods, there’s meditation of course. You know, transcendental meditation has been known as one of the greatest meditations for regulating your nervous system and really changing your brain to, frankly, changing your brain.

Brian: 23:25 How do you find the different practices in the sense that I’m curious, do you do it through a combination of your own when you’re researching, say, books or doing things online or connecting with different people who recommend? And then you try out, you know, the different styles that you’ve mentioned there. How do you filter or how do you navigate and experiment with what could potentially work with you? Because I know you obviously adopt and adapt the things that are most beneficial for you and you’ve mentioned multiple ones there in meditation. You know, mindfulness falls into that, etc.. How do you actually go about finding it’s just from a personal interest in terms of your filtering process or how you navigate the different therapies that are out there?

Gabby: 24:07 You know, Brian, I believe that when we make the decision, when we say something along the lines of there has to be a better way, right. Or I need a miracle, whatever that might be in our own life, we open up an invisible door that will guide us every step of the way. That to on the path of of, like I said, early unlearning the fears and remembering the love of who we are. I got sober 15 years ago because I said the words, I need a miracle. And I believe that there had to be a better way every step of the way for 15 years, I’ve been beautifully guided to the spiritual and therapeutic practices that have helped me regain my stability and freedom, truly freedom from fear. The each practice I just mentioned or practices I do weekly in therapy sessions of multiple therapists, not just because I want to feel good, but I also want to live to tell. I want to become truly free from my past so that I can live to tell what it means to be free in the present. Some devoted and committed and experiencing so much joy and grace as a result of that commitment. But I believe that we are guided to the practices that are that are the most resonant for us. So someone listening right now, maybe thinking to themselves, God, there has to be a better way. I’m so miserable. What do I do? And they just were guided to this podcast because saying there has to be a better way is a prayer, truly. So they were guided here. And on this podcast they hear me riffing about IFS or EFT and whatever something sparks their interest. Oh my God I want to go Google that and they Google it. And then a day later they have a friend that tells them about this IFS therapy and the like a week later and they Googled it they get this, you know, some kind of retargeting at about IFS, the Arabic and follow them just follows them around until it becomes the path. So we’re guided to the practices that we need in that exact moment in time that we need them. And our job is to just stay open and willing and receptive.

Brian: 26:14 That reminds me so much of The Universe Has Your Back like that whole line in that sentence, It’s so true. Do you think and I may be wrong with this, but just it’s what jumps out in my mind. But again, I don’t want kind of a false consensus-based because I’m thinking this. But do you think the key to getting out of your own ways, surrendering and just being receptive to it, or do you think it’s something else?

Gabby: 26:35 Well, I think that one of the most important steps is to surrender, but in order to get out of your own way, you have to be ready to change, willing to change, because we stay stuck in old habits and patterns, because we think that that’s safer or because we’re too terrified to face what’s behind them. And like I said, use the word bravery quite a few times now. It’s a brave act to go to the places that are uncomfortable, but it’s much easier than staying stuck in the discomfort.

Brian: 27:09 I’m going to take a I’m going to go back a little bit on Super Attractor, but just because we mentioned surrender there and from a kind of a personal standpoint, people long term, this is the podcast, we know that these are kind of things I’ve talked about in the sense of two issues I have is kind of surrender and vulnerability. And it’s funny that you mentioned of those things will come up because as just a couple of days before we recorded this podcast, your blog post was on vulnerability. And I was just I was laughing here when you were talking about it. I’m like, oh, my God. And that’s something that I’ve been working through myself just because it’s been kind of an issue of mine. Can you for a lot of people listening there in a similar position where they they struggle with the vulnerability side of things. Can you talk a little bit about how vulnerability gives you power and just that your experience with either your relationship or what you’ve seen with people in terms of their relationship when it comes to vulnerability …

Gabby: 28:02 Actually want to reflect something back to you? I don’t actually. I maybe you’ve felt like you’ve struggled with vulnerability in the past, but I want to just acknowledge that your willingness to even just say that out loud is very vulnerable. So and the way that you interview and the energy I get from you is quite authentic and and will end open. So I want to reflect back that I think you’re doing a good job and whatever work you’re doing to become an establish a greater sense of vulnerability. So good job because I’m thinking …

Brian: 28:35 Oh, thank you. I have a lot a lot of you to thank for that. So what you can do, it makes me think about it. So thank you.

Gabby: 28:41 I’m just sitting here thinking I don’t really he seems he seems pretty confidently vulnerable in this moment. So thank you for that. I appreciate it. So vulnerability is a superpower, because when we allow ourselves to just be real about what we’re feeling, that’s when we can really get our needs met. A lot of times when we have the inability to be vulnerable, we act out because we don’t want to show the discomfort that we’re in. But when we become willing to acknowledge, the places that are uncomfortable, the parts, the parts of us that are wounded, speak for them, speak on behalf of them, then other people can meet us with true connection and meet us from a place of true connection. Otherwise, it’s just a bunch of bullshit.

Brian: 29:34 It’s true, so true, like I have nothing to kind of add to that, I just I think, as you said, vulnerability being a superpower, because as I’ve kind of reflected and kind of dug into that, it definitely for me a kind of an overlap. And I know you’ve talked about this where vulnerability and intimacy, like it’s very, very difficult to have one without the other, that in order to have intimacy with somebody, you need to be quite vulnerable and open to that. And just even grateful for this conversation. Now, just because it’s making me think I’m like, I need to reflect on this after, but I do want to pull it back a little bit, because when I was going through super attraction reading Super Attractor, different things were jumping out at me. And one of the sections that I really connect to it myself was released in the past and living without fear of the future. Can you talk to people listening who haven’t read the book yet? Because as I said, I highly recommend checking it out after or the audiobook on Audible. What’s your what you recommend to people or what’s your thoughts on how people can adopt this in their own lives when it comes to releasing the past and living without fear of the future?

Gabby: 30:44 So I’m writing my ninth book on the topic. I think I think that that it’s a. It starts with the recognition that the past is actually what’s been disturbing the present. To notice from from a spiritual perspective, to look at the ego, right, to look at the ego, which is all about taking the past, projecting it on to the future and living it in the present, rather than allowing us to be new every day. So. The the ways that we need to truly surrender to that path of change become the focal point of really growth, of really growing, because it’s when I first got clean and sober, I was like by my sponsor said, get on your knees and pray, and I … Who I am praying to you, why am I getting on my knees or this before I really stablish my my God meant to me and but just doing it, just being in the surrendered act of getting on my knees and saying a prayer that then 15 years ago and still to this day is what has allowed me to be in the process of that kind of transformation. So I really think it’s about humbly accepting that there is guidance available to us, praying for it, being open to it, or if you don’t pray, you can set an intention to receive it and then really paying attention to it when it shows up for you.

Brian: 32:14 You mentioned there, established, my God meant to me. That line really jumped out at me. Can you expand on that a little bit?

Gabby: 32:20 Yeah, I’ve been taught through my recovery program that we can have a God of our own understanding so we don’t even have to call it God called it the universe You can call it Grandma, Angels, Energy, Love. So really these days, I think that it’s real hard to live life without some kind of sense of faith beyond your physical sight. But when you start to establish that connection, it becomes very present in your life. You can notice the guidance of loving energy beyond your physical experience. I notice it in my writing. I notice it when I give talks. I notice it when I’m with my son. I notice it when I’m meditating. I notice that when I’m exercising, I notice it when I see sparks of light in the sky. You know, there’s so many ways to notice that connection.

Brian: 33:07 When you’re writing books, Gabby, I’m curious, just because of the messages that are in your books and that as somebody that’s read, I haven’t read all of them, but I’ve read The Universe Has Your Back, Super Attractor, and they’re very deep and hard-hitting books deep. It feels like you’ve really dug deep for the lack of a better term. I have no better word to describe that. Do you feel like this may be a bit of a left-field question, but do you feel like there’s something bigger than you that’s coming through you and that’s what’s helping you write the message? Or and I ask that question to somebody that has got massive benefit from certain lines, certain sections, certain chapters, and it feels that it speaks directly to me. Do you find that there is because we’ve mentioned God, we’ve mentioned the universe, you know, different language the different people use. Do you find that? As I said, it’s a left-field question, but do you find it’s you that’s writing or is there something going through you or that this is meant for you to put out there because it’s your way of serving the world, it’s your greater purpose, it’s your mission or what your kind of relationship to that.

Gabby: 34:14 It’s a collaborative effort. So it’s me, It’s God, it’s the energy of love, it’s it’s spirit guides. It’s when we tap into inspiration, that’s when what Wayne Dyer would say were in spirit. So when I’m writing, I’m the most inspired. I’m the most aligned in spirit. When I’m writing, I read I read my books back when I read them for Audible. To to put them out as an audio book, and I’m like, who the fuck wrote that? You know, I don’t even I’m just like, where did that come from? So I know that it’s a collaboration. I take credit for my experience, my commitment in this human experience, this this daily devotion that I’ve had. But the biggest part about the writing process is stepping back and letting an energy channelled through me. I’ve had the beautiful experience of feeling dictated to. So there’s times when I’m writing where it’s almost like I can sense my brain move out of the left brain into the right brain, and I just start receiving. It’s really weird, but it’s cool. And then just words come naturally. It’s beautiful.

Brian: 35:27 I love that. And inspiration and inspiration. It’s so true. And the reason I asked that question was because that’s how it feels when you’re reading it. It’s very much a lack of I’m going to out there for people. It feels like you’ve connected with a greater power to put this into words that people can acknowledge and bring into their consciousness right now. That’s exactly how I felt when I’m going through the way that you put across your writing. So, yeah, I was just curious from a from a personal standpoint, if that’s how you felt. And there’s one last thing I wanted to talk on that really jumped out at me recently, Gabby especially. And you had a post on Instagram, and as I said multiple times, people check out the books, check out your Instagram page. You’re just a ball of positivity on there. But a recent post you had was about how to make spirituality a habit. And the reason I wanted to bring it up on this podcast is that I consistently talk about daily habits when it comes to your mindset, when it comes to your health, when it comes to fitness. Tell me what you do every day and I’ll tell you where you’ll be in a year. And I’m just going to give a brief recap. It was step one, decide to feel good. Step two, welcome spiritual guidance. Step three, be compassionate toward yourself. Step four, surrender and surrender more. Step five, take one small inspired action daily. I’m not going to get you to kind of rehash all five in detail, but when it comes to the five steps that you mentioned, which one do you think people struggle with the most?

Gabby: 36:45 Surrender.

Brian: 36:48 That one connects deeper than you know, I let you go with that…

Gabby: 36:53 Yeah. People don’t want to turn over their will. They don’t want to, like, surrender. What the hell are you talking about? The idea of giving up your gold or giving up your your need in your time line is just so unfathomable for people. But it’s when we allow when we truly surrender, that’s when we can be led to what is of the highest good for all that. People really don’t like to surrender. No, they don’t.

Brian: 37:17 I’m one of those people. I’m right there. But I think acknowledgment of us, I think for me is definitely a block. But bringing conscious awareness to the block. Gabby, from your experience or from what you’ve seen with other people just to stay on surrender, what was your you touched a little bit on, you know, 15 years ago how you kind of just surrendered to the universe, you felt something else go through you and that has led you on your kind of current path. It brings back what we’re talking about full circle. But for people that struggle to surrender, what is the advice that you would offer to them? What would you tell them to do first? I know it would vary person to person, but what would you say to that person is like, look, Gabby, I struggle. I can’t surrender. I’m not willing to let go of X, Y or Z. What would you say to that person?

Gabby: 38:04 Well, there’s a chapter in, The Universe Has Your Back. That’s my book that’s that says when you think you’ve surrendered, surrender more. And that was turned into a Oprah SuperSoul session’s talk, so I just want to mention that to somebody is like, I really want to follow Gabby’s steps to surrender. They can Google that on YouTube or on my blog because it’s very it’s very direct. But the steps to surrender begin with taking your hands off the wheel. Because we’re trying to drive our lives and direct our lives and force things to be there, take our hands off the wheel and we take our hands off the wheel through prayer. But I always say that the secret to prayer is to forget what you think you need. So the prayer that I recommend to all people for surrender is to pray for the highest good for all. And instead of saying, I want that relationship to save me or I need that job to save me, OK, I turn this over, I surrender this and I pray for the highest good for all. Even just saying that can make you feel better.

Brian: 39:10 Do you think? Because we kind of touched on obviously spirituality and making it a habit and just to stay on surrender and surrender more? Do you think that is a habit or it’s like one of the examples I will use for something like, say, self-discipline, which is nearly the opposite of nearly self-surrender, but that it’s a muscle that the more often you use it to better you get. Did you find or do you find that if people get good at surrendering to the thing they’re least willing to let go of, they get better with surrendering everything from that point forward? Or do they kind of reset and go back to stage one every time? Or is it something that gets stronger? The more they practice it.

Gabby: 39:48 Stronger the more you practice it. Surrender is a muscle. You’re absolutely right. Yeah, it’s stronger as you practice it.

Brian: 39:55 I love it. And Gabby, I just have one final question because I’m very conscious of your time. And as I said, I will link that video as well that Gabby mentioned in the show notes about surrender. So I highly recommend checking that too. But Gabby, you’re doing a million different things between the books. You’re just a machine in terms of getting your message out there and promoting it. I absolutely love it. But answer me the final question. What are you most excited about right now?

Gabby: 40:22 I’m excited about so many things. I’m excited about this new book I’m writing. I’m excited about a book coming out right now. So I’m assuming this is going to come out after August 31. So my I have an audible book coming out right now that’s pretty much free for people. So if you download it on excuse me, you can download it for free if you’re an audible member and if you’re not an audible member, you can get a free trial and get it for free. And it’s called You are the Guru. This book is this this this is my eighth book. And the ninth book is The Trauma when I’m writing, just to be super clear. But the You Are the Guru book is about it’s so wild because it’s six spiritual principles for really moving through difficult times with grace and ease. I wrote this book and submitted it, submitted the manuscript. Just the same week that we went into shutdown. Is like, oh holy shit, this is so perfect and appropriate. So so I’m just so grateful that, you know, when you asked if God reads through me, definitely because I couldn’t have planned this, this book is exactly what we need right now. So I’m just really thrilled that people will be able to help people, that it’s pretty much free. So go check it out.

Brian: 41:37 Just to follow up, one final thing on that “You are the Guru” at which this would be out on September 7, so I will link that in the show. You can download it for free. Who is that book written for? In the sense that I can tell from, you know, The Universe Has Your Back, Super Attractor. There’s going to be the majority of people listening to this podcast either for the first time or long term listeners or people who have kind of dived into a couple of months after we’ve recorded it, who have benefited massively from those books, who are who’s the audience or who is You are the Guru for.

Gabby: 42:11 It’s for anyone that’s looking for support during this difficult time. So probably most of us.

Brian: 42:16 Absolutely love that. Gabby, I cannot thank you enough for just an acknowledgement from my side for your time. First and foremost, I know how valuable that is, but especially for the message you’re putting out there through books, through your social media, through the videos that you do everything. I just want to say a massive thank you from my side. I know my audience is going to get massive value from listening to this, and I highly recommend consuming your content to add more positivity into your life and just kind of bringing things into manifestation. So, Gabby, thank you so much again.

Gabby: 42:45 Thank you. This was such a lovely interview. Thank you so much.

Brian: 42:51 There we have it. What an incredible person. Absolutely love Gabby. And she is exactly as you would expect. I was chatting to a bit offline and she is, puts out an incredible vibe, has an amazing aura. And what you got on today’s podcast is exactly what she puts out there. And I love this interview. Hopefully you enjoyed it as much as I did. So that is this week’s episode. Gabby Bernstine on Why the Universe Has Your Back and becoming a Super Attractor. I catch you all next week.

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